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Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 01-26-2010, 03:57 PM:

I said it earlier in teh year I just didn't think Tebow was the Pro style QB that some were making him out to be. I guess I was right!!
http://home.verizon.yahoo.com/_ylt=AhZbBbSFMNhck2FaQ94luP0GIn0V;_ylu=X3oDMTI2NWdpczgzBGNwb3MDMQRpbnRsA3VzBHBrZwNpZC0xOTQxNgRwa2d2AzEzBHBvcwMyBHNlYwN2ZXJpem9udGQtZmVhdARzbGsDdGl0bGU -/SIG=144iv1rk1/**http%3A//rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Tim-Tebow-meets-his-worst-career-fears-in-Senior%3Furn=ncaaf,215726

Posted by TampaKat (Member # 2109) on 01-26-2010, 04:19 PM:

Did you read the article? It said he had trouble taking the snap from under center first time he had ever done it, and his mechanincs, same exact thing Brandon bought up on the tebow thread I created what is also said was that he was worthy of a first round pick from Tony Dungy... He has things to work on but it was a positive article not one bashing tebow!

Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 01-26-2010, 06:43 PM:

He's got to be completely retrained.

Posted by TampaKat (Member # 2109) on 01-26-2010, 07:01 PM:

retrained from a throwing and taking a snap aspect yes. from being a leader, tough. and an all around winner and football player he needs no retraining. He could go and work as a 3.down gadget and wildcat guy like Vick did this year while working to be an NFL QB. I will be shocked if he doesnt go in the first riound. even more shocked if he doesnt make it as a NFL QB. But hey I though Tiger was up there with te Pope so nothing would suprise me.

Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 01-26-2010, 07:11 PM:

Tebow has been a fascenating player to watch these past years and even though he plays on a rival team fans are still interested in his progress. That is neat to see although it would also would be great to see our seniors do well and get some attention too.

Micah, Lindley, Smith, Duncan, Jeffries, Maxwell and a couple other possibly have a chance of being drafted..Wish them all well as they have played hard for us and deserve to be noticed too.

Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 01-26-2010, 07:15 PM:

As far as Tebow goes since he is from the SEC it will be good to see him and many other SEC players drafted. The more the better.

Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 01-26-2010, 11:02 PM:

He'll have to change his footwork, his release, being able to work with his back to the line? Just a few to mention!

I don't think his run game will be as effective at teh next level as it was in College!

If he brings that ball down Low with a DE like Sweeny coming up behind him and he'll lose it a bunch!

Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 01-27-2010, 12:09 AM:

Tebow is a very intelligent player and with good coaching he will make the adjustments and even if he doesn't they will find a place for him to play..

Posted by Atlanta Cat Fan (Member # 1746) on 01-27-2010, 08:41 AM:

I am very skeptical of Tebow's ability to transition to a role as an NFL QB. Between his mechanics and limited experience reading through progressions on offense (i.e., not look at 1, look at 2, tuck and run), he has a lot of ground to make up in just basic fundamentals and there is a lot of uncertainty whether he can be a passing QB. I wouldn't take the gamble on him but someone will for sure. He certainly is doing everything right off the field and has shown leadership and work ethic in college. I just don't know that this amounts to much value as an NFL draft pick if he doesn't make the conversion to a pro style offense.

Posted by Old Norm (Member # 1482) on 01-27-2010, 09:49 AM:

Yeah, but he is lovable. [Roll Eyes]

Posted by Brandon (Member # 108) on 01-27-2010, 10:57 AM:

He certainly is in Jacksonville. Tebow will be a project QB for some team (Jacksonville most likely) and will take a couple of seasons to develop into an NFL ready QB. Now, he certainly has all the necessary tools to make it happen for himself, but he needs refinement and coaching. Tim seems to take well to instruction so he may turn out to be a very good NFL QB. However, playing at Florida both helped him and hurt him in his NFL aspirations. Now, if a team wanted to adapt their offense to play to Tebow's current strengths, then that is their option to do so. But, good luck having success running the Florida style offense in the NFL with utilizing Tebow the way Florida did.

If I were a GM or Head coach, I might be interested in Tebow. However, I wouldn't be using my first round pick on him.

Posted by TampaKat (Member # 2109) on 01-27-2010, 02:54 PM:

Well thought out as always Brandon, if you were the Jaguars would you not take him?? I am going to get away from the going to be the next Steve Young aspect of it all because I realize he is not Steve Young but go with the buisness aspect. You are the Jaackosnville Jaguars you dont sell out NFL games which is unheard of, why not??? I dont put much stock in NFL mock drafts but I do take stock in rumors becuase where there is smoke there is fire. and Three NFL coaches told the guy on ESPN if Tebow is available we are taking him, I doubt that has changed... Did he not have an amazing game against cincy?

Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 01-27-2010, 08:34 PM:

Your right TK Jacksonville wants him bad. Tebow is a legend around here and they will fill the stands if they get him and he plays..

Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 01-27-2010, 08:36 PM:

He truly is a great kid and has been a idol of all the kids in this part of the State..

Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 01-27-2010, 08:38 PM:

Jacksonville could really use him too and he will be given a legitiment chance to play..

[ 02-04-2010, 09:21 PM: Message edited by: catmandoo ]

Posted by Brandon (Member # 108) on 01-28-2010, 07:17 AM:

Yeah, I understand why Jacksonville will probably take him with their first pick. They need butts in seats and Tim would be a great draw for Jacksonville, even if turned out to be another Tim Couch in the NFL.

But, there is a difference between taking a player for PR reasons and taking a player for strategic football reasons. If I was in the market for a QB, Tim wouldn't be my first choice, which is to say, he wouldn't be my first round choice, especially if I had a shot at a guy like Bradford or McCoy.

But that's just how I would choose to play it. In the end, a coach or GM has to make the choices that best help the team win games. Since it's impossible to know how a player will turn out at this level until he gets on the field and starts playing, you have to go with what your research tells you what you should do. If I am going to spend millions of dollars on a player, I want to get the best player I can at the position I need.

Like I said, though, I get why Jacksonville wants Tebow and I understand why they will probably select him in the first round. But, they want him not because he's the best QB they can get but because he will draw more fans to the games. They are drafting a marketing tool in QB form with Tebow.

Maybe it works out for both parties involved. I certainly hope Tim makes it in the NFL. He's a fine young man and he deserves his chance to prove he can be an NFL QB.

Posted by Trey Ball (Member # 332) on 01-30-2010, 09:30 PM:

After the performance today I would say he is a 3rd or 4th round pick at best.

Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 01-30-2010, 09:53 PM:

Wow, did Tim have 2 fumbles today? What's going on with him?

Posted by Brandon (Member # 108) on 02-01-2010, 11:54 AM:

He's no longer the big fish in the pond. Now he has to compete with the fish in the ocean. And there are some pretty big fish in the ocean...

Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 02-04-2010, 03:48 PM:

Here's another article on Tebow

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Tebow-to-Jags-talk-isn-t-sitting-well-with-at-le?urn=ncaaf,217616

Posted by Atlanta Cat Fan (Member # 1746) on 02-04-2010, 05:44 PM:

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I guarantee thousands of Georgia fans would be willing to make the drive down to the site of so many Cocktail Party aggravations for the sole purpose of watching their former tormenter operate behind a line that might not feel much like blocking for him.