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Posted by Atlanta Cat Fan (Member # 1746) on 02-12-2010, 12:04 PM:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/ncaa/02/12/rule.changes.ap/index.html

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If passed, players who draw flags for taunting gestures on their way to a touchdown would have the penalty assessed from the spot of the foul, taking away the score. Penalties that occur in the end zone would continue to be assessed on the extra-point attempt, 2-point conversion try or ensuing kickoff.

The change would take effect in 2011 and on the NCAA's web site, a release said the proposal received near-unanimous support.

"Taunting and prolonged individual acts have no place in our game, and our officials have generally handled these rules well," said former Oregon coach Mike Bellotti, the committee chair. "This is just another step in maintaining our game's image and reflecting the ideals of the NCAA overall."

The taunting rules seem to become a topic of debate among college football players, coaches and fans every season. Last season's big controversy stemmed from Georgia receiver A.J. Green receiving a 15-year personal foul penalty after he caught a go-ahead touchdown pass late in a game against LSU. The yardage from the penalty was assessed on the ensuing kickoff and helped LSU get into position to drive for the winning score.

The Southeastern Conference would later say there was no video evidence to support the flag on Green.

If anything, the taunting rules need to be loosened in college football. Celebrating (as opposed to taunting) is frequently penalized in recent years and shouldn't be, IMO.

Can you imagine the first game a ref changes by nailing the guy who dances into the end zone with a reversal that swings the game? Why is this needed.

I am not a fan of the proposal. My rule would be that celebrations are all OK even if they are crazy or egotistical and that taunting the players on the other team (such as a throat slashing gesture, etc.) should get the usual 15 yards. This does not seem to be an area where the game is out of control to me.

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The new rule on concussions is a good proposal (a doctor clears the player to return to contact) and the others strike me as more administrative than substantive.

[ 02-12-2010, 12:08 PM: Message edited by: Atlanta Cat Fan ]

Posted by Old Norm (Member # 1482) on 02-12-2010, 12:54 PM:

I hate taunting and excessive celebration. I have no problem with the proposal.

Posted by Atlanta Cat Fan (Member # 1746) on 02-12-2010, 03:51 PM:

Check out the clips from the Georgia game when AJ Green was tagged with a potentially game deciding celebration penalty and tell me if you agree with the call.

IMO, the game should be decided on the field.

No one gets upset when a hitter celebrates a home run in baseball or teammates celebrate a big shot in basketball. I don't know why football feels the need to impact the game on the field when teammates get excited and celebrate an exciting moment.

I do agree with the taunting being a problem but even then I wouldn't endorse taking away a basket if a player hung on the rim in basketball and the rule in the football is much more significant than that basketball involves maybe 40 made FGs in a good game and this rule would take away a TD from a team when you only get 4 TDs in a good game.

My personal view is that players celebrating an exciting moment is not bad for the game and should never, ever impact the outcome of the game.

This last season UGA got a critical excessive celebration for nothing more than celebrating a big moment with teammates and Ole Miss got one called against them against LSU when their player leaped into the end zone. Under this rule, they would have negated the INT and touchdown.

If the rule were called consistently, Packers would get flagged every time they did a Lambeau leap. IMO, the Lambeau Leap is a good thing for football and should not be met with a penalty flag.

Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 02-12-2010, 04:34 PM:

The problem is when they celebrate in front of the players on the other team and that can cause all kinds of problems where serious injuries can happen. I go along with no celebrations at all and then their is no possible complaints. You do it and your penelazized. Plenty of time to celebrate in the locker room after the game.