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Posted by Green-Bean (Member # 13551) on 09-29-2014, 08:39 PM:

what are these guys thinking? seems like this all the time at Kentucky with football, I never thought Barker would be involved. we will miss Baker And Boom Williams bad. I just don't get it.

https://kentucky.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1686823

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Posted by Green-Bean (Member # 13551) on 09-29-2014, 09:22 PM:

sure hope this has nothing to do with the pellet gun shooting, but I wouldn't doubt that it does.if it does we wont see these players no more, at least this year. I just don't understand it, I have been watching ky football since stoll field days 50 yrs I guess, and this has always happened, with our football team always something. under Curci it was terrible. something about this worries me. im a worry wart anyways. but bb guns are as bad as pellet guns.

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Posted by Green-Bean (Member # 13551) on 09-29-2014, 09:39 PM:

This ruins my whole week about football, im so disappointed.

Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 09-29-2014, 09:41 PM:

Makes no sense at all. They are lucky they are getting off so easy.

Posted by boomdaddy (Member # 2644) on 09-29-2014, 10:46 PM:

So this has gone from 4 guys shooting guns on campus to 4 guys shooting bb guns. Somebody better alert homeland security. Guess Lexington should ban the sale of bbs to anyone under 21. If anyone has red ryder bb gun, better sell it or hide it before they get on some kind of outlaw list.

Posted by WildcatFanatic (Member # 2932) on 09-30-2014, 08:00 AM:

They said on the news it was a CO2 pellet gun.

Posted by Green-Bean (Member # 13551) on 09-30-2014, 08:01 AM:

Boom in all due respect the university has a rule no guns at all on campus, and why do something like that anyway, Stoops is not very Happy with them, and the way things are these days students are scared of any kind of Gun shots, channel 27 news in Lexington said this morning its a criminal offense. maybe they will learn from this and move on. I have a pellet gun that is so powerful it can kill someone a mile away, cost me 500 dollars I shoot pigeons with it has a scope, pellets guns can do some damage. maybe its just me, any kind of gun should not be on campus.

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Posted by boomdaddy (Member # 2644) on 09-30-2014, 09:11 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Green-Bean:
Boom in all due respect the university has a rule no guns at all on campus, and why do something like that anyway, Stoops is not very Happy with them, and the way things are these days students are scared of any kind of Gun shots, channel 27 news in Lexington said this morning its a criminal offense. maybe they will learn from this and move on. I have a pellet gun that is so powerful it can kill someone a mile away, cost me 500 dollars I shoot pigeons with it has a scope, pellets guns can do some damage. maybe its just me, any kind of gun should not be on campus.

I do not condone the behavior. But, I do not look at the behavior as gravely criminal. It is a bunch of young kids doing stupid things. Slap them on the butt and tell them to behave. Why is everyone acting like they killed somebody?

Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 09-30-2014, 09:13 AM:

They very easily could face further charges and probably should. The bad thing too is all of them dressed in black and there was a air-soft gun involved also. This is serious stuff and you can bet if they were not on the football team they would be expelled.

Posted by boomdaddy (Member # 2644) on 09-30-2014, 09:30 AM:

I call BS. Every time any player makes the slightest misstep, fans act like they are mortified and that there is total moral chaos. I will tell you what I think is stupid, the fact that everyone else thinks this is a big deal. It is not.

Remember the kid from Louisville that got caught with a joint? He is still on the team. I would have guessed 80% of the fans on all of the internet sites called for the kids head to roll. It was misdemeanor and he gets it taken off his record.

I guess we could hire a coach who only offers scholarships to those who are deserving of saint hood. They probably aren't that good at sports, but are most likely better at hiding their character flaws from the public.

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Posted by PaulCat (Member # 513) on 09-30-2014, 11:03 AM:

I'm with Boom on this one. It's just another sad case of PC.

Posted by WildcatFanatic (Member # 2932) on 09-30-2014, 08:28 PM:

Any opinions on what effect this will have on our quality of play for Saturday? Is this small setback or big? Man I'd hate to have us lose to the Gamecocks, or anyone else, over something this silly. No doubt Spurrier and his team are loving it.

Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 09-30-2014, 09:00 PM:

WF, I think it could go either way on the downside we are going to have a few of the involved players who are very instrumental in the play of the game who will not be playing in the game and they "definitely" will be missed. On the bright side it is possible the team will bond and play their hearts out making up for Stanley Williams, Dorian Baker, Drew Barker and Tymere Dubose.

Posted by Green-Bean (Member # 13551) on 09-30-2014, 09:01 PM:

I don't know if it will have a effect on the game or not, we are deep at running back, we are not so deep at receivers, but what if Towels got hurt for season God Forbid, then we would need Barker. I think it has the most effect on what coach Stoops is trying to do here, and he pretty much said so.

Yea I know they are kids, and all that but it shut down the campus, they were looking for someone who did it. Pictures show they were wearing Hoods, that looked like isis, I don't think Stoops will only give nthem one game I think it will be more. He said there would be internal things.

Its also going to be a misdemeanor by the courts I have heard, maybe its just me, but I think it puts a stigma on us, it was on nbc sports. Stoops goes out and gets these guys all 4 star I think and cant play them in a big Game like this. Hope it all works out. I don't care if they are young and all that, they knew there was a no tolerance rule for Guns of any kind on campus. some time u just have to man up. Whatever Stoops and the university decides is alright with me!! JMO.

Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 10-01-2014, 01:09 PM:

G-B, your a good man and you nailed it. I think now the important thing in this mess is that the 4 involved realize the gravity of what they did and take responsibility for their actions rather than leaving and taking the easy way out.

Posted by Green-Bean (Member # 13551) on 10-01-2014, 02:38 PM:

cmd, thanks for the kind words, same to you, I don't think none will leave I think they have learned a valuable lesson, listening to Stoops today, im just glad we have him, he has this under control. I know Barkers parents have him under control for sure.

These are all good kids, and we will get through it. On the news today here in Cincinnati, a local Walmart pulled pellet guns and them air guns they used, from their shelves, cause a man was shot and killed with one in store.

Posted by WildcatFanatic (Member # 2932) on 10-01-2014, 07:18 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by catmandoo:
WF, I think it could go either way on the downside we are going to have a few of the involved players who are very instrumental in the play of the game who will not be playing in the game and they "definitely" will be missed. On the bright side it is possible the team will bond and play their hearts out making up for Stanley Williams, Dorian Baker, Drew Barker and Tymere Dubose.

I hope you're right catmandoo. We will need our best effort yet to beat the Gamecocks as they come in here with a chip on their shoulder after a heartbreaking 1 pt. loss to Missouri at home last week. Go Cats!!

Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 10-01-2014, 07:36 PM:

WF, I bet Stoops could chew nails over his band of camouflaged B-B gun squad. You can't even imagine a story of what happened and it really affects the team in a very big way. We are going to need a herculean effort from every other player on our team if we expect to beat South Carolina.

Posted by WildcatFanatic (Member # 2932) on 10-02-2014, 06:19 PM:

No doubt Stoops is beside himself with anger over this. Hopefully it will bring the team together and something positive will come of it. They might be BB guns but they're not toys. I'm glad nothing worse happened. They should get into paint ball if they want to shoot each other. Maybe the judge will sentence them to some gun safety training. And I do understand they're still kids and kids do some silly things. Live and learn.

Posted by boomdaddy (Member # 2644) on 10-03-2014, 07:27 PM:

Bad times we live in when people hem and haw over bb guns......what next? Kick a kid off the team because he "gasp" is caught with a pocket knife.

Tine to look in the mirror and ask yourself am I a smart person or not.

Posted by Old Norm (Member # 1482) on 10-03-2014, 07:50 PM:

I got a BB gun for Christmas when I was about 8. Then got a .22 single shot rifle at 12. Of course, this was all back in the 1940s. Different world then, and in my opinion, things were better then. I had a happy childhood, even if I did have to work my butt off!

Posted by Green-Bean (Member # 13551) on 10-03-2014, 09:21 PM:

Amen Norm, your childhood reflects, on the way u post on here. I had a bb gun, and I turned out ok, but I did not think of shooting anyone with it. When I look in the mirror I see a man that grew up on soup beans and corn bread, and a dad that worked 40 years in the coal mines, and a whole lot of love in our family of 16. we played Rook and didn't wear hoods.